but it's then incumbent on them to say okay, what's your alternative? and nobody, certainly not marco rubio or john mccain, nobody is talking about use of force in this situation. and when you scratch down below the surface and say what are they asking him to do, it's basically the same set of options that president obama has put on the table. that's true, he didn't draw a specific red line. but when he drew a specific red line, you heard about what the complaints were in syria, that he wasn't backing up that specific red line. and of course if he does actually take an aggressive posture, well, then clearly he is just trying to distract attention from obama care. he is damned if he does and he is damned if he doesn't. if you're going to make a criticism of the president policy on this, that's fair. but let's hear what the alternative is. >> but, you know, james, what is stunning to me is the right wing media has actually praised putin recently for his -- i say mishandling, but his handling of syria, and anti-gay issues. they've said, let me quote them.